Interesting to see Ellie Greenwich singing background vocals on the Jim Croce album. With her ex-husband Jeff Barry (they divorced after just a few years of marriage but kept working together) she co-wrote many 60's hit us old guys remember. Be My Baby, Chapel of Love, Hanky Panky, Da Doo Ron Ron, Leader of the Pack, Do Wah Diddy Diddy, River Deep - Mountain High,, Then He Kissed Me, and many others.
My apologies, hit the wrong button. $120 for annual subscription to Xm with 250 channels to listen in my car or anywhere with the app. As you like to say, you are worth whatever someone will pay you. Sorry Keystone light guy, with my limited budget you have priced me out of the market. I wish you well with your subscribers, I have enjoyed your TML for many years but only so much in the family budget. Continued success to you and your readers. Cheers!!
Wish I could afford $80 for a daily subscription. $40 for annual subscription to Enquirer that I can read unlimited articles. $120 for annual subscription
Legalized betting has few positive outcomes other than to increase the profit margins of the sports books and the sports leagues. It's no coincidence that any sports betting sites have 1-800-GAMBLER advertised. Yes, some people make money off of sports betting. The vast majority do not. The House always wins.
Violence among spectators is an ugly sight. Luckily the places I sit at Acrisure Stadium have very few incidents. But they do happen there as everywhere else. However, my interactions with visiting fans in Pittsburgh have almost always positive. Did witness a fight about 10 years ago. But of course it was two Steelers fans going at each other. I prefer zero tolerance. You hit or dump beer on someone - immediate dismissal and banned for the year from any NFL game. Second offense. Lifetime.
And why would that be? I’m not against betting. I just think it will eventually ruin the sports we know and love. There will come a fixing scandal of some kind. Human nature.
I really have never bet on anything. I’m not puritanical or anything. I just don’t bet. And, I don’t know if MVey had any idea about the over/under. Id say…doubtful. However, to me the whole idea of betting on sporting events is just distasteful. So, while I don’t like it at all, I won’t make some blanket statement pro or con.
On the other hand, the portal in college, I FREAKING HATE IT! I’ve been a UC BEARCAT sports fan since I was in high school in the 60’s. And, every year, I knew who nearly every player was. Now, I don’t know who ANY of them are! A week ago, I turned the Pitt/UC game on TV. As I watched, I realized that I was familiar with maybe 5 or 6 players on the whole team. The team played well and won…then laid a big ugly egg against Miami, Ohio this week. The point is…I’m a UC fan from way back but, right now, I don’t know this team. They’ve come from everywhere. And, sadly this is the way it will be from this time forward. So, I guess, just like in professional sports, there’s no real emotional buy-in toward any players anymore.
And, I didn’t comment on the garbage going on in the stands, concourses, restrooms and parking
lots at NFL games I have been to my fair share of NFL games but not in over 10 years. The reason? It’s just dangerous. Many of the people who attend are drunk coming in or planning on getting that way. I LOVE FOOTBALL, REALLY but not the stupid assed fans who attend. I watch it on TV.
To summarize, there is no such thing as true amateur sports anymore. It’s all very sad.
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I have the same thought about umpires and the liberty they have to call a ball or strike however they see fit. All it takes is a lawsuit that would trigger discovery - a legally binding evidence-collecting process that criminalizes any removal or attempted removal of evidence - and let's see who has active Fan Duel / DraftKings accounts, and let's see what games they're betting. I've long been cynical of this, before the Rams decided to play to cover in front of the world. What measures are currently in place?
Re: NFL experience - with you on that. Saw plenty of those types of responses on Twitter. I've been attending Bengals games for over 30 years, and Welcome to the Jungle is totally appropriate. Wish people pregamed with marijuana instead of alcohol, then everyone would just get fatter from all tailgating munchies instead of concust or arrested. Still wouldn't have any interest though. You said it a long time ago, but the NFL is its own worst enemy due to how good the home NFL experience is. On a gorgeous autumn Sunday, there is literally no where else I'd rather be than my couch.
Due to gambling the NFL has created the equivalent of an organized crime syndicate. They are locked in with three gambling organizations that can influence the betting. The NFL assists them. That type of scheme worked well for the Mafia.
The positioning of takes about the effect of legalized gambling in sports followed by a critical look at the Club’s refusal to pad its “good karma” (e.g. HOUSE MONEY) with additional resources reminded me of Pete’s ceremonial first bet at the Hard Rock’s new sports book: on the Reds to win the World Series. That story probably gets some fresh legs if the Reds somehow make the postseason.
Between McVay's response, and the fact that kicking a field goal in that situation is akin to a basketball team fouling its opponent with 15 seconds left and trailing by 35, the most logical and simple explanation -- Occam's Razor, anyone? -- of covering the spread is likely the reason behind it.
Is McVay gonna admit that? Nope. He and the NFL will deny, deny, deny. Can't have the coaches, managers, referees, umpires, etc., fooling with the "integrity" of the game.
That's an oxymoron, actually ... integrity of the game. Haha.
Something even more ludicrous is to think that, in a sports world that through the years has seen fixing of all sorts in boxing and horse racing, point-shaving in college basketball, an NBA ref jailed for his gambling on NBA games, an MLB team bought off in a World Series (1919), an MLB manager banned for life for gambling on games (the Hit King), etc., etc., that the NFL is some unimpeachable, pristine bastion of sporting integrity and there's nothing nefarious going on behind the scenes.
It happens in the NFL, too ... it's just that no one has broken omerta yet and revealed it to the world.
Legalizing gambling is a sad and regressive way to make up for the tax revenue that's no longer being paid by corporations or the very wealthiest. This 'solution' is another clear sign of a nation on the decline.
A close friend was an exec at Draftkings. He told me about a meeting he had with the governors office of a poor southern state. The governor popped in the meeting and said 40% of the bridges in his state were structurally deficient, and he really needed the sports betting revenue so they could try to keep their motorists safe. They legalized sports betting quickly. How sad!? New Deal Era Americans are turning over in their graves.
Go Reds, Go Buckeyes, best of luck to the Bengals.
Hunter Greene had 14 Ks over 7 innings and only 92 pitches. And Bell pulled him. No confidence in your Ace? Not wanting to stick with the hot hand? And what about Greene, wouldn’t he want to go for the record of 20 K’s and enter the history books? I cannot imagine Max Scherzer or Pedro Martinez, or Clemens, or Randy Johnson, or Maddux, or any stud pitcher allowing the manager to pull them in that situation. That’s weak as hell by both guys.
As a Colts fan and casual Bengals fan but frequent attendee of games, it’s tradition to get bombed and act like an idiot at PBS. Especially when the team sucks and it’s December and nobody is there. The River Rats come out in full force. My wife would say Colts games are boring. And maybe they are. But not every fan base is littered with Zubaz wearing, Braxton beer swilling, idiots who like to fight.
Math hurts my head which is why I have never read articles about Phil Jackson and his triangle offense. I’m pretty sure today was the first time anyone has ever mentioned Euclidean geometry in a baseball article. 🤯🤕
I looked at the Taft’s website to see what kind of tickets were left for the Croce on Croce concert on Nov. 9th. There are plenty of good tickets left in the balcony area. There are several located on the aisle which, as some of us are disdainfully aware, is a great place to sit because of our frequent use of the lavatory and our unwillingness to walk the Sea of Aisle before the dam leaks. But, something else caught my eye. Under the “Info” button, there are TWO disclaimers. Not one but two and they remind THIS audience of THIS performance of music created 50 years ago that there is no elevator to the balcony and attendees must walk up stairs. Wow. Stairs? How do those work?
I am not a sports gambler or casino type or lottery hopeful, but I am a long-time horseplayer and am well aware of the cheating going on. Blood thinners, milkshakes, leg ointments, and even cobra venom have stained the sport’s reputation since the beginning. My personal strategy to deal with it is to only bet on horses whose trainers have winning percentage - greater than 25% - that stretch believability to the max. 30 percenters are locks in my book. That, of course, includes all the big-name trainers in the game. To me, that means if something is going on behind the scenes, I am more likely to be in on the fix.
What’s my point here with the NFL and sports gambling? You accept that cheating is going to happen and pretty much take it or leave it. Why let Cosa Nostra get it all? Sounds like the NFL owners agreed with me and just decided to hell with their reputations.
As for drunks and other miscreants at NFL games, I am just like you, Doc. Going to a game in person means prepare for anything and remember, most of these drunks played football and are used to pushing and shoving. Entering a stadium men’s room anywhere reminds me of a pool room back in the day. Keep your eyes open and your back to the wall. But at least in a pool room, you could keep your cue handy for emergencies.
Interesting to see Ellie Greenwich singing background vocals on the Jim Croce album. With her ex-husband Jeff Barry (they divorced after just a few years of marriage but kept working together) she co-wrote many 60's hit us old guys remember. Be My Baby, Chapel of Love, Hanky Panky, Da Doo Ron Ron, Leader of the Pack, Do Wah Diddy Diddy, River Deep - Mountain High,, Then He Kissed Me, and many others.
My apologies, hit the wrong button. $120 for annual subscription to Xm with 250 channels to listen in my car or anywhere with the app. As you like to say, you are worth whatever someone will pay you. Sorry Keystone light guy, with my limited budget you have priced me out of the market. I wish you well with your subscribers, I have enjoyed your TML for many years but only so much in the family budget. Continued success to you and your readers. Cheers!!
Wish I could afford $80 for a daily subscription. $40 for annual subscription to Enquirer that I can read unlimited articles. $120 for annual subscription
Guess I'm a Thursday freeloader.
Legalized betting has few positive outcomes other than to increase the profit margins of the sports books and the sports leagues. It's no coincidence that any sports betting sites have 1-800-GAMBLER advertised. Yes, some people make money off of sports betting. The vast majority do not. The House always wins.
Violence among spectators is an ugly sight. Luckily the places I sit at Acrisure Stadium have very few incidents. But they do happen there as everywhere else. However, my interactions with visiting fans in Pittsburgh have almost always positive. Did witness a fight about 10 years ago. But of course it was two Steelers fans going at each other. I prefer zero tolerance. You hit or dump beer on someone - immediate dismissal and banned for the year from any NFL game. Second offense. Lifetime.
And why would that be? I’m not against betting. I just think it will eventually ruin the sports we know and love. There will come a fixing scandal of some kind. Human nature.
Like the song, but what is the answer? I find it frustrating that I can't ask. Maybe Clapton is too.
I really have never bet on anything. I’m not puritanical or anything. I just don’t bet. And, I don’t know if MVey had any idea about the over/under. Id say…doubtful. However, to me the whole idea of betting on sporting events is just distasteful. So, while I don’t like it at all, I won’t make some blanket statement pro or con.
On the other hand, the portal in college, I FREAKING HATE IT! I’ve been a UC BEARCAT sports fan since I was in high school in the 60’s. And, every year, I knew who nearly every player was. Now, I don’t know who ANY of them are! A week ago, I turned the Pitt/UC game on TV. As I watched, I realized that I was familiar with maybe 5 or 6 players on the whole team. The team played well and won…then laid a big ugly egg against Miami, Ohio this week. The point is…I’m a UC fan from way back but, right now, I don’t know this team. They’ve come from everywhere. And, sadly this is the way it will be from this time forward. So, I guess, just like in professional sports, there’s no real emotional buy-in toward any players anymore.
And, I didn’t comment on the garbage going on in the stands, concourses, restrooms and parking
lots at NFL games I have been to my fair share of NFL games but not in over 10 years. The reason? It’s just dangerous. Many of the people who attend are drunk coming in or planning on getting that way. I LOVE FOOTBALL, REALLY but not the stupid assed fans who attend. I watch it on TV.
To summarize, there is no such thing as true amateur sports anymore. It’s all very sad.
I have the same thought about umpires and the liberty they have to call a ball or strike however they see fit. All it takes is a lawsuit that would trigger discovery - a legally binding evidence-collecting process that criminalizes any removal or attempted removal of evidence - and let's see who has active Fan Duel / DraftKings accounts, and let's see what games they're betting. I've long been cynical of this, before the Rams decided to play to cover in front of the world. What measures are currently in place?
Re: NFL experience - with you on that. Saw plenty of those types of responses on Twitter. I've been attending Bengals games for over 30 years, and Welcome to the Jungle is totally appropriate. Wish people pregamed with marijuana instead of alcohol, then everyone would just get fatter from all tailgating munchies instead of concust or arrested. Still wouldn't have any interest though. You said it a long time ago, but the NFL is its own worst enemy due to how good the home NFL experience is. On a gorgeous autumn Sunday, there is literally no where else I'd rather be than my couch.
Due to gambling the NFL has created the equivalent of an organized crime syndicate. They are locked in with three gambling organizations that can influence the betting. The NFL assists them. That type of scheme worked well for the Mafia.
The positioning of takes about the effect of legalized gambling in sports followed by a critical look at the Club’s refusal to pad its “good karma” (e.g. HOUSE MONEY) with additional resources reminded me of Pete’s ceremonial first bet at the Hard Rock’s new sports book: on the Reds to win the World Series. That story probably gets some fresh legs if the Reds somehow make the postseason.
The NFL execs sound like they’re ready to run for political office. Roger for President!
Between McVay's response, and the fact that kicking a field goal in that situation is akin to a basketball team fouling its opponent with 15 seconds left and trailing by 35, the most logical and simple explanation -- Occam's Razor, anyone? -- of covering the spread is likely the reason behind it.
Is McVay gonna admit that? Nope. He and the NFL will deny, deny, deny. Can't have the coaches, managers, referees, umpires, etc., fooling with the "integrity" of the game.
That's an oxymoron, actually ... integrity of the game. Haha.
Something even more ludicrous is to think that, in a sports world that through the years has seen fixing of all sorts in boxing and horse racing, point-shaving in college basketball, an NBA ref jailed for his gambling on NBA games, an MLB team bought off in a World Series (1919), an MLB manager banned for life for gambling on games (the Hit King), etc., etc., that the NFL is some unimpeachable, pristine bastion of sporting integrity and there's nothing nefarious going on behind the scenes.
It happens in the NFL, too ... it's just that no one has broken omerta yet and revealed it to the world.
Legalizing gambling is a sad and regressive way to make up for the tax revenue that's no longer being paid by corporations or the very wealthiest. This 'solution' is another clear sign of a nation on the decline.
A close friend was an exec at Draftkings. He told me about a meeting he had with the governors office of a poor southern state. The governor popped in the meeting and said 40% of the bridges in his state were structurally deficient, and he really needed the sports betting revenue so they could try to keep their motorists safe. They legalized sports betting quickly. How sad!? New Deal Era Americans are turning over in their graves.
Go Reds, Go Buckeyes, best of luck to the Bengals.
Hunter Greene had 14 Ks over 7 innings and only 92 pitches. And Bell pulled him. No confidence in your Ace? Not wanting to stick with the hot hand? And what about Greene, wouldn’t he want to go for the record of 20 K’s and enter the history books? I cannot imagine Max Scherzer or Pedro Martinez, or Clemens, or Randy Johnson, or Maddux, or any stud pitcher allowing the manager to pull them in that situation. That’s weak as hell by both guys.
As a Colts fan and casual Bengals fan but frequent attendee of games, it’s tradition to get bombed and act like an idiot at PBS. Especially when the team sucks and it’s December and nobody is there. The River Rats come out in full force. My wife would say Colts games are boring. And maybe they are. But not every fan base is littered with Zubaz wearing, Braxton beer swilling, idiots who like to fight.
Math hurts my head which is why I have never read articles about Phil Jackson and his triangle offense. I’m pretty sure today was the first time anyone has ever mentioned Euclidean geometry in a baseball article. 🤯🤕
I looked at the Taft’s website to see what kind of tickets were left for the Croce on Croce concert on Nov. 9th. There are plenty of good tickets left in the balcony area. There are several located on the aisle which, as some of us are disdainfully aware, is a great place to sit because of our frequent use of the lavatory and our unwillingness to walk the Sea of Aisle before the dam leaks. But, something else caught my eye. Under the “Info” button, there are TWO disclaimers. Not one but two and they remind THIS audience of THIS performance of music created 50 years ago that there is no elevator to the balcony and attendees must walk up stairs. Wow. Stairs? How do those work?
I am not a sports gambler or casino type or lottery hopeful, but I am a long-time horseplayer and am well aware of the cheating going on. Blood thinners, milkshakes, leg ointments, and even cobra venom have stained the sport’s reputation since the beginning. My personal strategy to deal with it is to only bet on horses whose trainers have winning percentage - greater than 25% - that stretch believability to the max. 30 percenters are locks in my book. That, of course, includes all the big-name trainers in the game. To me, that means if something is going on behind the scenes, I am more likely to be in on the fix.
What’s my point here with the NFL and sports gambling? You accept that cheating is going to happen and pretty much take it or leave it. Why let Cosa Nostra get it all? Sounds like the NFL owners agreed with me and just decided to hell with their reputations.
As for drunks and other miscreants at NFL games, I am just like you, Doc. Going to a game in person means prepare for anything and remember, most of these drunks played football and are used to pushing and shoving. Entering a stadium men’s room anywhere reminds me of a pool room back in the day. Keep your eyes open and your back to the wall. But at least in a pool room, you could keep your cue handy for emergencies.