I'll start off by agreeing with you that it was a ridiculously shortsighted decision to force your program into back to back hornet nests because of a floor remodel. But I have a few counterpoints when it comes to the insinuation the UC program was anything less than a total sinking ship when Wes Miller took over: 1) The 2020-21 Bearcats…
I'll start off by agreeing with you that it was a ridiculously shortsighted decision to force your program into back to back hornet nests because of a floor remodel. But I have a few counterpoints when it comes to the insinuation the UC program was anything less than a total sinking ship when Wes Miller took over:
1) The 2020-21 Bearcats went 12-11 in Brannen's final season at UC. Even if that entire team came back its not like Wes Miller started where Brannen started with a team coming off an NCAA Tournament and conference POY returning for his Sr season.
2) NINE players left the program to enter the transfer portal either during or after the 12-11 season. That is an absurd amount of a .500 team that quit on Brannen by the end of the 20-21 season. Maybe you prefer sinking ship over dumpster fire but whatever you call it Wes Miller didn't inherit a thriving program when he took over in mid April 2021. Well after most recruits had committed to schools for the 2022 season.
3) Lakhin was a medical redshirt and never played a minute of basketball for Brannen. He also wasn't very good his redshirt FR season which was played under Miller. All of his improvement from FR to SOPH season is due to Miller and his coaching staff (considering he's the only CBB coach he's played or -- most likely -- practiced for.)
4) Nothing to do with UC....but XU has 3 players that account for 17 YEARS worth of college basketball seasons. A ridiculous advantage that has never existed in college basketball before now. Yet I see no qualifying of success based on the random luck they've received by being able to play players who are 24 years old and in their 150+ career college basketball games.
Wow, so petty and jealous how you're handling Xavier's success. You left a couple obvious things out in your anger. X was smart. They hired an intelligent, solid, experienced coach. That's to their credit. Too bad UC did just the opposite. They hired a clown act in Miller. He is a push over of a coach. And he will bolt town the first chance he gets to go back to the Carolinas.
Lahkin was Brannen's recruit. NOT Miller's. That was the point. It's about Miller's horrible recruiting. Miller, in his 2 recruiting cycles, has brought in about a dozen guys, and almost all of them stink. That's a fact, Jack. Next time, try sticking to the point. As for Lahkin's development, I say he would be much farther along under Brannen's coaching than he is under Miller's. Brannen played inside. He had real experience. Miller was a undersized runt and crummy scrub at NC. He was a walk-on.
The 9 transfers line is a distortion. Of the six who left after the season, 2 returned. Most of the guys who left have done nothing elsewhere. As for DURING the Covid season, lots of kids sat out, then decided to quit their team, which you conveniently left out. They got all screwed up being trapped in the dorms and playing in front of no one. I was glad to see the Madsons, Sanders, and Harvey go. Brannen would have gone out and gotten better. Those guys were crybabies.
Brannen was well loved by most of his guys at NKU. He was very successful there. He was a very successful college player, just like Huggs. Also like Huggs, he's a tough coach who doesn't put up with crap. Miller coddles his guys. He's Travis Steele, 2.0. Steele got all walked over. So does Miller. Nolley got more and more careless and selfish as the season went on, jacking 3s whenever he wanted to, throwing passes behind the back, playing hard only when the mood struck him. Miller ignored it. Miller belongs at a mid major. This is not the right place for him. He's been pretty lost here. He tries hard; UC is not a good fit.
Good to see you read what you wanted to read instead of what I actually said. I made no issue of XU success. I simply stated there has been no qualifying of that success like their is any time UC was mentioned this year.
You keep making up whatever you want to make up though. Enjoy the offseason.
Moreover.....it was actually 11 that potentially left at the end of the season....but I don't remember Davenport or Adams-Woods officially having entered the portal so I didn't include them. But 9 players quit the team or entered the transfer portal at the end of the season. When Miller was hired in mid April he was able to re-recruit Saunders and Mason Madsen back to UC.
Wanna count with me?
1) Rapolas Ivanauskas (left 7 games into the season)
2) Tari Eason (transferred to LSU)
3) Mason Madsen (entered transfer portal at end of season, Miller re-recruited him back)
4) Zach Harvey (entered transfer portal at end of season, transferred to UCSB)
5) Chris Vogt (entered portal after season, transferred to UW)
6) Gabe Madson (left team 2 games into the season, transferred to Utah after the season)
7) Mike Saunders (entered transfer portal at end of season, Miller re-recruited him back to UC)
8) Mamoudou Diarra (transferred to Tennessee Tech)
One final thing because its a ridiculous take that can't be ignored RE: Lakhin. I get you're just a hater (of Miller...or perhaps just an XU fan and a hater of UC in general?) but what an asinine comment in regards to Lakhins development on the college level.
Brannen inherited a conference championship roster and turned it into a .500 team within 2 years. But he would have been better for Lahkin's development than the man that has actually been developing him (successfully).....because Brannen is also tall?
Georgetown must be leading the NCAA's in the development and draft picks of big men since Patrick Ewing had been HC for several years....right? He's tall so his big men must be the best...because tall. Excuse me...my eyes have rolled out their sockets and I must retrieve them.
I'll start off by agreeing with you that it was a ridiculously shortsighted decision to force your program into back to back hornet nests because of a floor remodel. But I have a few counterpoints when it comes to the insinuation the UC program was anything less than a total sinking ship when Wes Miller took over:
1) The 2020-21 Bearcats went 12-11 in Brannen's final season at UC. Even if that entire team came back its not like Wes Miller started where Brannen started with a team coming off an NCAA Tournament and conference POY returning for his Sr season.
2) NINE players left the program to enter the transfer portal either during or after the 12-11 season. That is an absurd amount of a .500 team that quit on Brannen by the end of the 20-21 season. Maybe you prefer sinking ship over dumpster fire but whatever you call it Wes Miller didn't inherit a thriving program when he took over in mid April 2021. Well after most recruits had committed to schools for the 2022 season.
3) Lakhin was a medical redshirt and never played a minute of basketball for Brannen. He also wasn't very good his redshirt FR season which was played under Miller. All of his improvement from FR to SOPH season is due to Miller and his coaching staff (considering he's the only CBB coach he's played or -- most likely -- practiced for.)
4) Nothing to do with UC....but XU has 3 players that account for 17 YEARS worth of college basketball seasons. A ridiculous advantage that has never existed in college basketball before now. Yet I see no qualifying of success based on the random luck they've received by being able to play players who are 24 years old and in their 150+ career college basketball games.
Wow, so petty and jealous how you're handling Xavier's success. You left a couple obvious things out in your anger. X was smart. They hired an intelligent, solid, experienced coach. That's to their credit. Too bad UC did just the opposite. They hired a clown act in Miller. He is a push over of a coach. And he will bolt town the first chance he gets to go back to the Carolinas.
Lahkin was Brannen's recruit. NOT Miller's. That was the point. It's about Miller's horrible recruiting. Miller, in his 2 recruiting cycles, has brought in about a dozen guys, and almost all of them stink. That's a fact, Jack. Next time, try sticking to the point. As for Lahkin's development, I say he would be much farther along under Brannen's coaching than he is under Miller's. Brannen played inside. He had real experience. Miller was a undersized runt and crummy scrub at NC. He was a walk-on.
The 9 transfers line is a distortion. Of the six who left after the season, 2 returned. Most of the guys who left have done nothing elsewhere. As for DURING the Covid season, lots of kids sat out, then decided to quit their team, which you conveniently left out. They got all screwed up being trapped in the dorms and playing in front of no one. I was glad to see the Madsons, Sanders, and Harvey go. Brannen would have gone out and gotten better. Those guys were crybabies.
Brannen was well loved by most of his guys at NKU. He was very successful there. He was a very successful college player, just like Huggs. Also like Huggs, he's a tough coach who doesn't put up with crap. Miller coddles his guys. He's Travis Steele, 2.0. Steele got all walked over. So does Miller. Nolley got more and more careless and selfish as the season went on, jacking 3s whenever he wanted to, throwing passes behind the back, playing hard only when the mood struck him. Miller ignored it. Miller belongs at a mid major. This is not the right place for him. He's been pretty lost here. He tries hard; UC is not a good fit.
Good to see you read what you wanted to read instead of what I actually said. I made no issue of XU success. I simply stated there has been no qualifying of that success like their is any time UC was mentioned this year.
You keep making up whatever you want to make up though. Enjoy the offseason.
Moreover.....it was actually 11 that potentially left at the end of the season....but I don't remember Davenport or Adams-Woods officially having entered the portal so I didn't include them. But 9 players quit the team or entered the transfer portal at the end of the season. When Miller was hired in mid April he was able to re-recruit Saunders and Mason Madsen back to UC.
Wanna count with me?
1) Rapolas Ivanauskas (left 7 games into the season)
2) Tari Eason (transferred to LSU)
3) Mason Madsen (entered transfer portal at end of season, Miller re-recruited him back)
4) Zach Harvey (entered transfer portal at end of season, transferred to UCSB)
5) Chris Vogt (entered portal after season, transferred to UW)
6) Gabe Madson (left team 2 games into the season, transferred to Utah after the season)
7) Mike Saunders (entered transfer portal at end of season, Miller re-recruited him back to UC)
8) Mamoudou Diarra (transferred to Tennessee Tech)
9) Keith Williams (transferred to WKU)
One final thing because its a ridiculous take that can't be ignored RE: Lakhin. I get you're just a hater (of Miller...or perhaps just an XU fan and a hater of UC in general?) but what an asinine comment in regards to Lakhins development on the college level.
Brannen inherited a conference championship roster and turned it into a .500 team within 2 years. But he would have been better for Lahkin's development than the man that has actually been developing him (successfully).....because Brannen is also tall?
Georgetown must be leading the NCAA's in the development and draft picks of big men since Patrick Ewing had been HC for several years....right? He's tall so his big men must be the best...because tall. Excuse me...my eyes have rolled out their sockets and I must retrieve them.